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Large FBA Solution: The Y-Dart FBA

June 2, 2015 by Michelle

If you have a large bust, you might be familiar with the common slash-and-spread method of performing a Full Bust Adjustment (FBA) pattern alteration that adds ease to the bust area through adding or increasing the size of a bust dart. If you are not already familiar with FBAs but want to learn the basics, read through the CSC’s Beginner’s Guide: Full Bust Adjustment post.

The traditional slash-and-spread works fantastically well for most of us…up to a point. Once you increase the bust dart to a large enough size, that dart becomes rather ungainly to sew and creates an awkward flap of fabric at each side of your of your bust. To see an example of one of these Big Honkin’ Darts, see my previous post about Large FBA Issues: Dealing with the Big Honkin’ Dart. This post also gives an introduction to several options for dealing with this unwieldy dart.

One increasingly popular method of dealing with the large dart caused by a traditional FBA is to make a slight alteration to your FBA method by performing a Y-Dart FBA. I first became aware of the Y-Dart FBA when Palmer-Pletsch published this alteration in an updated revision of Fit for Real People several years back. Palmer-Pletsch recommends switching to the Y-Dart method of FBA if you’re performing an FBA larger than 1.5″ (roughly 3.8 cm) on a darted bodice. A great thing about the Y-Dart method is that it simply adds one more pattern cut to a traditional FBA, so you can start out doing a traditional FBA, and switch to the Y-Dart method, if needed.

Pros and Cons of a Y-Dart FBA

The Y-Dart FBA alteration provides a great alternative to the traditional FBA in many cases; however, this alteration isn’t a magic bullet to the Big Honkin’ Dart issue. The following list of Pros and Cons can help you decide if this alteration might be a good choice for the garment that you’re making:

Pros:

  • The Y-Dart method is a good choice for large FBAs on a bodice with a bust dart (as opposed to princess seams).
  • If you typically rotate all or part of your bust dart, the Y-Dart method works well for garments that do not have a logical place for dart rotation.
  • This method can be done “on the fly” if you’ve started a traditional FBA and then decide that the dart is too large.

Cons:

  • If you need a really large FBA (3″ or more), you’ll still have a Big Honkin’ Dart to deal with.
  • Some women find that the Y-Dart adds too much fabric to the upper chest for them.

To be sure if the Y-Dart method is a good choice for you and your garment, I highly recommend making a muslin to see how this alteration works for you before you cut into your good fabric.

How to perform a Y-Dart FBA

The Y-Dart FBA really only has one additional step beyond a traditional FBA. This tutorial walks through the steps of slashing and spreading your paper pattern for this alteration on a quarter-scale bodice pattern. Note that in my demonstration, I’ve drawn in seam allowance lines and will include dealing with seam allowances in my instructions.

To perform a Y-Dart FBA:

  1. Let’s start by drawing in the lines that we’d normally draw for an FBA on a darted bodice:
  2. For the Y-Dart FBA, however, we’re going to add one more line. This line will run from the middle of the should seam to the bust apex:
  3. Perform the following cuts to your pattern piece:
    1. From the bottom of the pattern piece to the bust apex, pivot slightly and continue on the leg that goes to the armscye. Cut to the stitching line at the armscye, then make a snip from the seam allowance on the armscye to this point. This snip will enable you to pivot the pattern piece at the armscye.
    2. Cut from the edge of the bust dart nearly all of the way to the bust apex. Stop just short of where the previous cut passed through.
    3. Cut from the bust apex up the line towards the shoulder, stopping at the stitching line. Snip from the seam allowance to just short of this cut so that you’ll be able to pivot the piece at this point. If you’ve made all of your cuts correctly, the center of the pattern piece should now very roughly resemble a “Y”, which is how this alteration gets its name:
    4. Cut all of the way through the horizontal lengthen line at the lower right.
  4. Just below the bust apex, spread the pattern pieces the amount necessary for your FBA.
  5. Fill in the open areas with pattern tissue.
  6. True up the lower-right corner piece with the rest of the bodice.

Let’s look at the difference between a 3″ traditional FBA and the 3″ Y-dart FBA that we just completed. Note how much more reasonable the side bust dart appears and how more gently curved the armscye is on the Y-dart pieces:

As you can see, performing a Y-Dart FBA really isn’t much more complicated than performing a traditional FBA. Have you ever tried a Y-Dart alteration? How did it work out for you?

In one more upcoming post in this series, I’m going to present one more option for dealing with the Big Honkin’ Dart caused by a large FBA: dart rotation. We’ll look at the various options for dart rotation and work through a tutorial where we’ll rotate a bust dart to another location on a bodice pattern.

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About Michelle

I live in Seattle with my husband, 7-year-old daughter, two cats, and two dogs. I work as a technical writer for a large tech company.

As an adult, I've worn every RTW size from a 10 to a 20, always with a larger size on top. I've been sewing since 2007 and love being able to make things that I actually enjoy wearing, rather than being confined to "Well, I guess it fits" from RTW. Michelle used to blog at: Happily Caffeinated but is currently more active on Instagram: @happily_caffeinated.

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Comments

  1. Natalija says

    July 7, 2015 at 3:49 pm

    Interesting. I have done a regular FBA many times, but never this. Will have to try it. Thanks.

  2. Lmolkat says

    July 7, 2015 at 10:45 am

    I have been using your guide to make my new pattern fit. What a difference! I started out three sizes smaller than I used to and used the y dart. Less frustrated and I might have a top I’m willing to duplicate in the end. Thanks for sharing your knowledge about darts!

  3. s j Kurtz says

    June 5, 2015 at 11:47 pm

    I like how the y keeps the armscye rounder. Thanks lady!

  4. Mother of Reinvention says

    June 5, 2015 at 10:06 am

    This is great. I have been playing about with dart positioning as I have to make a 2-3″ FBA and have the dreaded Big Honking Dart to play with. There is a great post this week on Rhonda’s Creative Life about dart rotation as design that would be a good way to deal with this issue and make it into something fab. xx

    • Michelle Rose says

      June 5, 2015 at 2:01 pm

      Thanks for sharing that! Here’s the post, for those who are interested. It provides quite a bit of design inspiration:

      http://rhondabuss.blogspot.com/2015/06/monday-morning-inspirationmanipulating.html

  5. Jane says

    June 3, 2015 at 4:39 am

    Thanks for these posts – I’m eagerly following along! I’ve never seen this particular adjustment before. I’ve just done my first FBA and found at 1.75″ it was a fairly BHD (love that term). I ended up dividing it into two side darts that both point towards the apex. The fit seems quite good but I’m not sure about the look of two darts… probably something only other sewists would notice though. Going with it for now cos I need the frock for Friday night 😀 I’m wondering though whether the ‘French dart’ style that starts lower and goes for longer would help?

    • Michelle Rose says

      June 5, 2015 at 2:02 pm

      If I’m going to have a bust dart, I personally prefer French darts over straight horizontal bust darts. I think they look better on me, at least. French darts usually add more waist shaping, too.

  6. Tomasa says

    June 2, 2015 at 8:48 pm

    This Y dart alteration does not work for me. I am like Kayoticsewing – large bust, narrow shoulders. I find I must either make 2 darts or rotate one of the darts and keep one dart.

    • Michelle Rose says

      June 5, 2015 at 2:03 pm

      Yup, I was so bummed the first time that I tried the Y-dart and suddenly had extra fabric in the upper chest.

      I think it would be an interesting experiment for someone to try sizing down in the shoulders from their usual size and then doing a Y-dart and see if that helps the issue.

  7. Annette Smith says

    June 2, 2015 at 7:17 pm

    I have dealt with the big honking dart by splitting it into two darts, having the second dart centre line parallel to the first and either above or below depending on how close the armhole is. It spreads the depth of the dart which seems more appropriate for a larger bust anyway

    • Michelle Rose says

      June 5, 2015 at 2:05 pm

      I haven’t found that sort of dart placement to work particularly well for me (I tend to like one horizontal and one vertical–at the waist or shoulder) on me, but I’m really glad to hear that you found something that works for you. That’s why we learn pattern alterations and sew, isn’t it?

  8. Kayoticsewing says

    June 2, 2015 at 5:33 pm

    Thanks Michelle for such a useful post. I belong to one of that small group of women -> “Some women find that the Y-Dart adds too much fabric to the upper chest for them.”

    If you have bigger bust and narrow shoulders, chances are you will have problem with this y-dart fba.

    • Michelle Rose says

      June 2, 2015 at 5:45 pm

      Agreed, although I think it’s worth trying at least once, in a muslin, if you’ve never tried it before. It’s definitely not a “magic bullet” for fitting.

      I’m working on the dart splitting and rotation post right now, which are skills that can help just about anyone, regardless of figure type.

      • Kayoticsewing says

        June 5, 2015 at 10:44 am

        Yes Michelle, definitely worth a try! It works for most people, and it was such a bummer that it didn’t work out for me.

        I’m so excited that you’ll be writing about dart splitting… That’ll be very helpful. I’m so looking forward for that. 🙂

  9. Riesie says

    June 2, 2015 at 10:30 am

    Thanks for including the side by side comparison. Excellent post.

    • Michelle Rose says

      June 2, 2015 at 5:43 pm

      Thank you!

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