Yesterday Andie wrote about her favorite materials for small-band, large-cup figures… Today Megan is here with her perspective!
Small-Busted Material Tips
If you are reading the CSC and have a small bust, chances are good that you probably have a larger band size than most RTW manufacturers expect someone with and A, B, or even C cup to have. This is Megan representing Team Small Bust, and this is a problem I’ve struggled with for the last 15 years or so. The good news is that now that I know how to sew, I don’t have to deal with it anymore!
If you have a large band size and you are anything like me, it can be a struggle to mitigate the band-cutting-into-back-fat issue. Though it may seem counterintuitive, I have found that a good firm powernet and firm band elastic can help a lot, and I’ll share links to my favorites below. In my experience, because the materials are more firm, they are able to provide more support without being overly stretched, which can cause bands and elastics to buckle, roll, and cut into your back. I find that a good firm band stays in place all day!
As for other elastics and strapping, I typically use the pattern’s recommended widths/types of elastics as I find my smaller bust doesn’t need the extra support of heavy duty elastics, like the ones Andie mentioned that she uses above. One of my favorite tricks is to use the pre-made straps from Sew Sassy (linked below), they are really cheap, dye well, and keep me from having to source the appropriately sized sliders and deal with all those fiddly bits.
While your milage may of course vary, I like to use foam in all my bras. This is not so much to provide padding as it is to provide additional shaping and structure. I have used pre-made foam cups in sports bras, lounge bras, and bathing suits. I simply insert the cups between the lining and fashion fabric, if you want them to be removable you can leave the lining open at the side seams. I use cut-and-sew sheet foam, as Andie mentioned above, in all of my underwired bras, following this EXCELLENT tutorial from Cloth Habit. You can add foam to most any pattern using this tutorial! The sheet foam you can buy is typically fairly thin and compresses down when you wear it, so it doesn’t add much padding but it does give a nice smooth appearance.
Did you read what Andie said above about Duoplex and sheer cup lining being her favorite materials for bra cups? Well, I’m going to recommend the same materials but for different reasons. For the first several bras I made, I was all like “lace! stretch satin! give me all the pretty things!” but I was having to refit my pattern every. single. time. Don’t be like me!
Consistent fabric choices will give you consistent results and you won’t leave you guessing how the fit will be every single time you make a new bra. I love Duoplex because it comes in a variety of colors and is smooth under knits, which I wear a lot. Also, the Duoplex sold by Bra Maker’s Supply has Pantone colors listed and you can buy coordinating stretch fabrics to from BMS to make matching undies. If you want to experiment with lace or other stretch fabrics for your bra cups, I suggest you fit a bra pattern in sheer cup lining and then use it to underline every other type of fabric you want to use.
And one final tip, don’t forget to use your precision sewing presser foot of choice (like an edgestitching foot)! I use the satin stitch foot for my Janome and the channel under the foot allows me to feed the elastic through and keep the topstitching a consistent distance from the edge. Don’t even ask how long it took me to realize how hard this was to do with the regular foot!
MEGAN’S SHOPPING LIST:
Pink Boylston Bra:
- Boylston Bra pattern from Orange Lingerie, added 2 inches to largest band size
- FJ-6 Duoplex from Bra Maker’s Supply, fuschia, for cups, straps, and frame
- FP-7 stretch mesh with spandex, from Bra Maker’s Supply, white, for wings
- F-325 polylaminate foam from Sew Sassy, nude, for cup lining
- FL-11.80 sheer cup lining from Bra Maker’s Supply, nude, for lining the bridge
- EB-672 FIRM band elastic from Bra Maker’s Supply, white
- PE-401 plush finishing elastic from Sew Sassy, white, for upper band and strap finishing (“underarm elastic” per pattern)
- BS894 premade straps from Sew Sassy, white
- UW927 Flex-Lite underwires from Sew Sassy
- CH922 Bra channeling from Sew Sassy, white
- HE952 one hook three eye tape from Sew Sassy, white (cut to desired length once bra is finished and use a very small zig-zag stitch to finish cut edges)
Matching Undies:
- Geneva from Seamwork Magazine, sized down 1 size and added 4” to rise, modified panels a bit
- FR-51 stretch satin from Bra Maker’s Supply, fuschia (not highly recommended as it is only 1-way stretch)
- Swimsuit lining fabric from Joann’s, white (this is my FAVORITE fabric for undies, for those of you that like something thin, stretchy, and quick-dry/non-cotton)
- PE-401 plush finishing elastic from Sew Sassy, white, for leg and waistband finishing
- FOE726 fold over elastic from Sew Sassy, for alternate leg finishing on white pair
- SLT-530 wide stretch lace trim from Sew Sassy, embellishment on white pair
Bra Making Suppliers
We’ve put together the following list based on regions of bra making suppliers. Stars indicate recommendations from us. If something is not starred, we have not ordered from this location.
Etsy and eBay are also great sources for bra making supplies ranging from rings and sliders, underwires, to stretch laces and elastics. Andie has bought a lot of stretch laces and premade bows from eBay and fold over elastic in lots of colours/prints from Etsy.
Canada
USA
- Arte Crafts*
- Porcelynne*
- Sew Sassy*
- Corset Making Supplies
- Tailor Made Shoppe
- Bravo Bella
- Needle Nook Fabrics (Phone orders)
- Bra Essentials
Australia/New Zealand
- Susan of Measure Twice/Cut Once not only has separate bra making supplies, she also makes and dyes bra kits which have all the supplies are dyed in super funky colours. She also has a great tutorial on her blog for cloning one of your own well fitting bras – I have tried this and it worked a treat!
- Sew Squirrel sells patterns, and supplies online. She has some great kits for “findings” i.e. all the supplies excluding fabric and underwires.
- I have been getting my supplies lately from a local bricks & mortar store Make It Fabrics whose website unfortunately is atrocious! However their in store service is brilliant and their supplies are extensive. They have loads of powermesh, stretch laces, all the elastics, hooks and underwires for a huge variety of sizes.
UK
Europe
We’d love to here your recommendations in the comments! And if you have any questions about materials, now is a great time to ask!
ZB WonderWoman says
Ever had underwires Rust/Stain Bra Fabric courtesy of hellish hot weather?! Considered removing underwires (ugh), then sliding them into flat plastic tubing and reinserting. Only thing stopping this? Effectively redesigning a garment that should be structurally sound to begin with. Without the royalties. Has anyone else experienced this issue and how did you solve it?
J G says
Removing underwires is actually *very* easy! Just slit the underwire casing at the very top, just before the stitching that goes across it (I usually choose the side closer to the underarm). You just have to cut through the topmost layer of the casing. Then you can push and slide the underwire out completely through that slit. To replace, just push and slide the new or modified one in, and then tack across the slit you made with your sewing machine, or handsew it strongly.
I’ve never tried plastic tubing for rust, but I have considered coating an underwire with nail polish for a swimsuit! (Actually I’ve never had an underwire rust, not sure why…). Heat-shrink tubing might be good for what you suggest- it is used for electronics wires.
Megan @ The Green Violet says
wow! i’ve never had this happen! the underwires i have ordered from sew sassy are fully coated in some sort of plastic, so maybe you could order those and just replace your old underwires with them. I can’t see how they could rust with all the coating they have.
J G says
Oh, so my real question! I notice I need the firmer underwires- any suggestions for which supplies carry the stiffer wires and which models? I have been reluctant to order online since I can’t test the underwire firmness. Def want to start making bras from scratch!
Andie W. says
Bra Maker’s Supply or Sweet Cups in the US have good firm wires. I haven’t had an issue with them bending out of shape from wear. Highly recommend them. Here’s the link for Sweet Cups. Not sure how it didn’t get on the list!
http://www.sweetcupsbrasupply.com/
J G says
Thank you!
J G says
I haven’t yet made bras, but have been modifying RTW bras to fit. I get the largest band that fits my cup size, and then add extra to the back band between the back band and hooks; and if I remove the sliders and just sew the straps together I get long enough shoulder straps. As a sewer I can always change the strap length later if needed, which makes the sliders optional- something I’m going tho carry over when making bras from scratch!
Megan @ The Green Violet says
This sounds like you have similar fit issues to me, i wish I had thought of this trick when buying RTW! I know you will love sewing bras though, good luck! It has made a world of difference for me.
Katrine LJ says
Maybe you could add bwear.se to your Europe list?
They have the European distribution rights for items from Bra Maker’s supply, as far as I can understand from their site 🙂
Megan @ The Green Violet says
Thanks! That is good to know!
Sofía says
Very interesting post, I discovered some new places to shop for bra making supplies!! Thank you! 😀 And that pink boylston bra is just gorgeous 😉 I think I’m going to learn a lot through this Lingerie Month!
Megan @ The Green Violet says
Thanks Sofia!
ZB WonderWoman says
A Hot Mama curvy bra? In fuschia? In cup sizes A-B-C? Sweet! On-line cohorts will be thrilled to see products/lists of suppliers. And Gillian? Agree–definitely foam for ooh la-la shaping. Ability to add pockets for push-up pads? Swoon. Hoping for swirly tap panties (i.e., Folkwear’s Hollywood Pants, ‘Rehearsal Shorts’) too. Perhaps friends in CoCo (Costume College) have suppliers, sources, etc., to add. I’ll pass this series along, then see what happens.
Megan @ The Green Violet says
Thanks, lady! Making bras is so fun!
Gillian says
You and Andie are both inspiring me to make my next few bras a little more girly! And I’m going to bite the bullet and order some foam!
Andie W. says
Yes! Sew Sassy’s foam is truly the best. 😀 I can’t wait to see what you create. 😀 😀
Megan @ The Green Violet says
do it gillian!!